Thursday, November 27, 2008

Review from a pua

**Sent to me by Joseph from the Project Chicago lair**


Review of Pre RedStack Seminar Coaching with El Topo and Ratisse

The week that El Topo did the lair talk with Project Chicago he also did a RedStack seminar that Sunday. The night before the seminar, El Topo took out the seminar attendees to get a feel for where each attendee was, and where they are with their game, and what each person’s strengths and weaknesses were.

We met up for dinner at a restaurant in Wicker Park, and were joined by Ratisse who would help El Topo with coaching that night. Those of you who frequent the RSD boards might be familiar with the name. Ratisse is a bit younger and has more of a higher energy, very playful natural style and is always on. He was a very interesting guy. He peacocks a bit too. He showed up at the restaurant gothed out with eyeliner, double lip piercings, and . . . anyone . . . anyone . . . you guessed it, the quintessential black nails. The guy definitely carries himself with a lot of confident energy and swagger as well.

He sat down and we started talking. For a guy that comes off as so hyper-confident, Ratisse was actually pretty laid back and extremely cool to talk to. Very early on in the conversation he mentioned that he didn’t have a big ego about dealing with people and likes to work with people. That turned out to be true, and he was really good at motivating each of us for the night to come. I think this guy is up and coming in the pickup community and is a name that you will hear a lot about in the coming months and years.

One thing about dinner was that Ratisse helped me refine my strategy for picking up the type of women that I want, as well as work with me on some customized material to help me convey some of the things that I am passionate about. The specific routine started with my main hobby of snowboarding and what that’s like for me, and then used that to build up a conversational theme of stepping outside your boundaries. Then he pointed out how you can use that to start sexually framing a woman pretty early on in the conversation. After that he turned and worked with each of the guy’s around the table. He kind of had this urgency to him, where he wanted to help everyone there. The guy definitely has a gift for coaching and a desire to help people.

Over dinner, El Topo interviewed each of the seminar attendees in depth, collecting detailed information about their lifes and their histories. He took notes, but in retrospect he did most of the seminar from memory. One of the things that makes El Topo such a gifted teacher is that (this sounds cliché as I write it but . . .) He has a natural understanding of people and emotions, and just humanity for lack of a better term. To those that ask how he got good so fast, that is his gift that enabled that. It’s also the main thing that I get from him from a coaching perspective whenever we hang out is that he just exudes that innate understanding of human interaction.

We went out to English. There were six attendees and two coaches. I got 1-1 time with both Ratisse and El Topo. The specific feedback I got from El Topo is that I move around too much in set, and it comes off as being uncomfortable. Also, that I need to drop the attraction vibe and engage earlier to start building rapport, and to take her in and out of different emotions.

Working with Ratisse in field was fun because he just dominates every set that I saw him in. It was timely too though because I am in Sinns coaching program and my assignment for the week was to have more fun and be more playful in set, because I take pickup too seriously to the point of it interfering with my game. Ratisse is so laid back and fun infield that I just dropped all game for a change and went into set after set just having fun. We spotted this really hot blonde in a two set and I had already decided to go in when he spotted her and said go in. It was her birthday and the conversation got sexual pretty quickly. It was about a half and hour set. Lot’s of kino sexual talk. It got a bit too much into comfort towards the end, and I somehow ended up in Day-2 land with a solid phone number, but no SNL, which I think was a possibility at the beginning of the set. Later Ratisse made me text her and push for the late night meet up and even wrote the text for me. Text game is one of his specialties. I got a good reply fast, but still didn’t get the SNL. Odds for SNL drop drastically once you let them out of your site because you have to constantly manage their state. This woman was definitely high quality though, and it was a confidence builder just getting as far as I did.

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